<a href="https://fnt.ro/2023/author/mihaela-michailov/" title="Posts by Mihaela Michailov" class="author url fn" rel="author">Mihaela Michailov</a>{"id":69043,"date":"2023-10-23T23:50:54","date_gmt":"2023-10-23T21:50:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/?p=69043"},"modified":"2023-10-23T23:53:52","modified_gmt":"2023-10-23T21:53:52","slug":"daca-sunt-arse-niste-etape-atunci-spectacolul-va-fi-doar-o-carcasa-fara-substanta-interviu-cu-regizorul-eugen-jebeleanu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/daca-sunt-arse-niste-etape-atunci-spectacolul-va-fi-doar-o-carcasa-fara-substanta-interviu-cu-regizorul-eugen-jebeleanu\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201eDac\u0103 sunt arse ni\u0219te etape, atunci spectacolul va fi doar o carcas\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 substan\u021b\u0103\u201d &#8211; Interviu cu regizorul Eugen Jebeleanu"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><div id=\"blog-header\" class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box hundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\"  style='background-color: rgba(255,255,255,0);background-position: center center;background-repeat: no-repeat;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;'><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row \"><div  class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion_builder_column_1_1  fusion-one-full fusion-column-first fusion-column-last autor fusion-column-no-min-height 1_1\"  style='margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper\" style=\"padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;background-position:left top;background-repeat:no-repeat;-webkit-background-size:cover;-moz-background-size:cover;-o-background-size:cover;background-size:cover;\"  data-bg-url=\"\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-sep-none fusion-title-center fusion-title-size-six\" style=\"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:60px;\"><h6 class=\"title-heading-center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/author\/mihaela-michailov\/\" title=\"Posts by Mihaela Michailov\" class=\"author url fn\" rel=\"author\">Mihaela Michailov<\/a><\/h6><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div><div  class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion_builder_column_1_2  fusion-one-half fusion-column-first first fusion-column-no-min-height 1_2\"  style='margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;width:48%; 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Caragiale\u201d din Bucure\u0219ti, Sala Pictur\u0103.<\/h3>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box post_content nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\"  style='background-color: rgba(255,255,255,0);background-position: center center;background-repeat: no-repeat;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;margin-top: 30px;'><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row \"><div  class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion_builder_column_1_6  fusion-one-sixth fusion-column-first first 1_6\"  style='margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:20px;width:16.66%;width:calc(16.66% - ( ( 4% + 4% ) * 0.1666 ) );margin-right: 4%;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper\" style=\"padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;background-position:left top;background-repeat:no-repeat;-webkit-background-size:cover;-moz-background-size:cover;-o-background-size:cover;background-size:cover;\"  data-bg-url=\"\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"fusion-text\"><p><span class=\"date\">23 octombrie 2023<\/span>\u00a0 <span class=\"categorie\"><a class=\"underline category-17\" href=\"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/category\/stiri-acasa\">Stiri<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div><div  class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion_builder_column_2_3  fusion-two-third second 2_3\"  style='margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:20px;width:66.66%;width:calc(66.66% - ( ( 4% + 4% ) * 0.6666 ) );margin-right: 4%;'>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper\" style=\"padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;background-position:left top;background-repeat:no-repeat;-webkit-background-size:cover;-moz-background-size:cover;-o-background-size:cover;background-size:cover;\"  data-bg-url=\"\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"fusion-text\"><p><strong>Ce relevan\u021b\u0103 acorzi cercet\u0103rii \u00een procesul de lucru la un spectacol?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Cercetarea, pentru orice proiect, este parte din procesul de dezvoltare a dramaturgiei. Pentru Yann Verburgh, dramaturgul al\u0103turi de care am dezvoltat multe spectacole, \u0219i pentru mine, dar \u0219i pentru \u00eentreaga echip\u0103 de colaboratori &#8211; scenograful\/a sau compozitorul -, cercetarea reprezint\u0103 esen\u021ba procesului de definire a conceptului pe baza c\u0103ruia se va construi spectacolul.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cum \u00ee\u021bi organizezi etapele de cercetare? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00cen primul r\u00e2nd, e vorba despre dialogul dintre regizor \u0219i autor sau dramaturg. Pornim de la tema principal\u0103 \u0219i \u00eencepem s\u0103 facem mai int\u00e2i un r<em>esearch<\/em> &#8211; istoric, estetic, analitic &#8211; pe marginea subiectului. Adun\u0103m astfel referin\u021be comune care urmeaz\u0103 s\u0103 fie \u00eemp\u0103rt\u0103\u0219ite cu \u00eentreaga echip\u0103. Fiecare proiect are nevoile sale \u0219i etapele difer\u0103 de la un spectacol la altul, timpii de lucru sunt al\u021bii. Prefer s\u0103 am mai multe perioade de lucru la un proiect, at\u00e2t pentru timpii de <em>research,<\/em> c\u00e2t si pentru laboratorul de lucru propriu-zis la scen\u0103. Altfel se a\u0219az\u0103 lucrurile c\u00e2nd ai timp, de\u0219i, c\u00e2teodat\u0103, \u0219i urgen\u021ba unui proiect poate fi o constr\u00e2ngere bun\u0103 pentru spectacol. Mie mi s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat cu <em>B\u0103iatul v\u0103duv\u0103<\/em>, de exemplu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Po\u021bi detalia felul \u00een care ai lucrat la spectacolul selectat \u00een FNT,<\/strong><strong> <em>La Ronde<\/em>? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Cercetarea la acest proiect \u00eei apar\u021bine, \u00een mare m\u0103sur\u0103, lui Yann Verburgh, care a documentat extrem de aplicat subiectul p\u00e2n\u0103 s\u0103 ajung\u0103 la forma materialului existent. Textul exista deja c\u00e2nd am \u00eenceput repeti\u021biile la TAM. \u00cens\u0103 Yann a fost acolo pe toat\u0103 durata perioadei de crea\u021bie, pentru modific\u0103ri, adapt\u0103ri \u0219i traducere, pentru a fi c\u00e2t mai racordat la contextul spa\u021biului \u0219i al momentului \u00een care am f\u0103cut spectacolul. Eu am venit cu acest concept al <em>unui cabaret al noilor sexualit\u0103\u021bi <\/em>\u0219i de aici s-a articulat \u00eentregul spectacol.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-69044\" src=\"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/27.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"750\" height=\"629\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/27-200x168.png 200w, https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/27-300x251.png 300w, https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/27-400x335.png 400w, https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/27-600x503.png 600w, https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/27-768x644.png 768w, https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/27-800x671.png 800w, https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/27.png 940w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Exist\u0103 spectacole \/ demersuri performative pe care le-ai creat (la care a\u021bi contribuit) care se apropie mai mult &#8211; ca form\u0103, ca tip de lucru, ca abordare &#8211; de zona laboratorului artistic? Care sunt particularit\u0103\u021bile lor? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mult\u0103 vreme numeam teatrul nostru un \u201eteatru documentat\u201d, fiindc\u0103 se fonda tocmai pe aceast\u0103 relevan\u021b\u0103 a dialogului dintre fond \u0219i form\u0103, \u00eentr-o dinamic\u0103 de tip cauz\u0103-efect. Ast\u0103zi, a\u0219 numi teatrul nostru ca fiind unul al \u201econstruc\u021biei\u201d. De\u0219i inspira\u021bia \u00een scrierea textelor vine, de multe ori, de la pove\u0219tile celor implica\u021bi \u00een proiect, este un tip de teatru intim \u0219i politic, care \u00eens\u0103 se \u00eendep\u0103rteaz\u0103 de la o raportare exclusiv documentar\u0103, pun\u00e2nd mai mult accentul pe filtrul fic\u021biunii dramatice, devenite motor empatic \u0219i critic. La acele spectacole \u201edocumentate\u201d, cum a fost cazul spectacolului <em>Itinerarii. \u00centr-o zi lumea se va schimba<\/em>, laboratorul era esen\u021bial, fiindc\u0103 totul era un experiment nefabricat, neanticipat, care r\u0103spundea preocup\u0103rilor noastre de atunci \u00eentr-un mod brut, crud. Laboratorul \u00eens\u0103 se reg\u0103se\u0219te \u0219i la <em>Am avut o livad\u0103<\/em>\u00a0de exemplu, chiar dac\u0103, \u00een final, e un text dramatic \u00een toat\u0103 regula. \u00cen acest caz, cercetarea noastr\u0103 analitic\u0103 s-a transferat \u00eentr-un laborator al formei, p\u0103str\u00e2nd miza de la proiectele precedente, \u0219i anume de a pleca de la sine, de la o poveste personal\u0103, \u00eens\u0103, poate, cu mica diferen\u021b\u0103 c\u0103, \u00een final, ne \u00eendepartam de acest sine, pentru a g\u0103si o voce colectiv\u0103.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/hq4Om1tpN2k?si=XqN_-JabilBFD1Cy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>Crezi c\u0103 \u00een actualele contexte de produc\u021bie, sistemul de lucru de tip laborator &#8211; care presupune o alt\u0103 dinamic\u0103 \u0219i un alt timp &#8211; devine mult mai complicat de gestionat? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>E mai complicat, fiindc\u0103 timpul de lucru alocat pentru produc\u021bia unui spectacol a devenit tot mai scurt, mai ales \u00een teatrele de stat din Rom\u00e2nia. Ar fi bine dac\u0103 s-ar lucra \u00een mai mul\u021bi timpi, pe durata unor perioade de reziden\u021be de crea\u021bie care s\u0103 acopere un interval mai mare, dac\u0103 s-ar acorda mai mult\u0103 importan\u021b\u0103 dramaturgiei, dramaturgului, cercet\u0103rii, fiindc\u0103 un spectacol nu se na\u0219te direct la scen\u0103, indiferent de metod\u0103, iar eu chiar nu sunt regizorul care s\u0103 vin\u0103 cu spectacolul f\u0103cut de acas\u0103. Toat\u0103 faza de documentare, \u00eent\u00e2lnire, laborator, este vital\u0103, pentru c\u0103 din acest punct \u00eencepe construc\u021bia spectacolului \u0219i, dac\u0103 sunt arse ni\u0219te etape, atunci spectacolul va fi doar o carcas\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 substan\u021b\u0103.<\/p>\n<p><strong>C\u00e2t de deschis \u021bi se pare peisajul teatral local pentru demersuri de cercetare, experiment, laborator? Po\u021bi indica exemple concrete care, de-a lungul timpului, \u021bi-au atras aten\u021bia?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Din p\u0103cate, foarte pu\u021bin. Cred c\u0103 se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 \u0219i lucruri bune, \u00een ora\u0219ele de provincie mai ales, fiindc\u0103 acolo actorii \u0219i actri\u021bele sau, \u00een general, oamenii de teatru nu sunt obseda\u021bi s\u0103 alerge dup\u0103 c\u00e2t mai multe proiecte, \u0219i atunci se pot consolida ni\u0219te echipe care caut\u0103, experimenteaz\u0103, nepierz\u00e2nd arderea pentru un \u201enou\u201d. La Teatrul Andrei Mure\u0219anu din Sf\u00e2ntu Gheorghe este o atmosfer\u0103 extraordinar\u0103, cu o trup\u0103 fabuloas\u0103, la Teatrul GONG la fel. La Centrul de Teatru Educa\u021bional Replika se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 genul de proiecte laborator, axate pe cercetarea dramaturgiei actuale. La UNATC \u201eI.L.Caragiale\u201d \u00eencerc s\u0103 aduc \u0219i eu tipul acesta de lucru, acum c\u0103 sunt profesor la anul II de Master Arta actorului. Am propus exerci\u021bii teatrale care s\u0103 ofere studen\u021bilor \u0219i studentelor un habitat de lucru propice experimentului, fie c\u0103 vorbim de co-produc\u021bia cu \u0218coala de Teatru de la Paris, ESAD &#8211; axat\u0103 pe colaborarea dintre 14 studen\u021bi rom\u00e2ni \u0219i 14 studen\u021bi francezi, proiect care se va concretiza printr-un spectacol la Metropolis, la final de noiembrie -, fie c\u0103 vorbim de ce am \u00eencercat s\u0103 fac anul trecut cu studen\u021bii la Teatrelli, prezent\u00e2nd <em>work-in-progess<\/em>-uri ale proiectelor lor, unul pe texte de \u00c9douard Louis, care urmeaz\u0103 s\u0103 \u0219i intre \u00een repertoriul teatrului \u00een aceasta stagiune. Teatrelli este poate cel mai bun exemplu de spa\u021biu laborator care caut\u0103, cerceteaz\u0103, experimenteaz\u0103 \u0219i propune publicului viziuni noi.<\/p>\n<p><em>Interviu realizat de Mihaela Michailov<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Foto: Yann Verburgh<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div><div  class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion_builder_column_1_6  fusion-one-sixth fusion-column-last third 1_6\"  style='margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:20px;width:16.66%;width:calc(16.66% - ( ( 4% + 4% ) * 0.1666 ) );'>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper\" style=\"padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;background-position:left top;background-repeat:no-repeat;-webkit-background-size:cover;-moz-background-size:cover;-o-background-size:cover;background-size:cover;\"  data-bg-url=\"\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":23,"featured_media":69046,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[17],"tags":[11331],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69043"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/23"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=69043"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69043\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":69049,"href":"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69043\/revisions\/69049"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/69046"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=69043"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=69043"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fnt.ro\/2023\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=69043"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}